One very neat trick I learned a year ago, and it came in handy this weekend, is to get one of those clamp-on heat lamps. Our feed store sells them as brooder lamps but they’re readily available at hardware stores as well. Typically 250w, either clear or red but the red seems “hotter” to me. Anyway, I use those to thaw out frozen pipes. I clamp the light about 3″ away from the pipe in question. If the pipe is insulated, I peel away the insulation about 6″ on either side of the centerpoint of where the light is aiming, so that the heat doesn’t melt the insulation. I also took the cardboard core from a paper towel roll, and cut that lengthwise (to open it up and make a long channel) and then lined the channel with aluminum foil. By putting that behind the pipe in question, a lot of additional heat from the lamp is collected and reflected back to the pipe. Cuts thaw-out time by about 2/3, such that it takes about 90min to thaw an approx 24″ run of standard domestic water supply in copper pipe. We were able to thaw out a 6′ run of frozen pipe this weekend, thus bringing our bathroom sink and toilet back into operation (whew!). Would have gone faster if I’d used that foil reflector earlier in the process. Hopefully that little hint will help someone avoid a plumber’s bill down the road..
The guys are home as you know, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!—enough singing. After nail biting so hard on Friday I am thankful enough Okies stayed off the roads Friday that ds was able to creep in and pick up dh then they made it home again. I can’t believe we got through that ordeal without a major Murphy hit.
I’ve not done a homework report in a couple of weeks so I thought I’d do one a little early (Sunday rather than Monday). We are getting a slight freezing drizzle in our area again so the guys will probably telecommute to work again tomorrow. Luckily they work for a company that will allow this.
The temps are suppose to possibly get above freezing on Tuesday and go up from there. Which is a good thing because ds is suppose to go to Calumet in southern OK on Tuesday night to do more pipeline walk downs (he is NOT amused).
With all the travel time involved due to airport delays dh got 10 hours of OT in while at AU in Las Vegas. He said he had no urge what so ever to gamble while in Vegas. He kept thinking about how close we were to being debt free and how much better the money would be spent toward that goal. Never even put a penny in a slot. My how the taste of being nearly debt free has changed us. LOL!
Speaking of our race toward freedom. Two weeks ago I made a very important appointment to move us toward that goal. Dh turns 66 in Feb and I turn 64 in January so I made an appointment with the Social Security office for us to go in and once again get the ss checks started on the 18th. If that appointment goes well our ss checks will start in January and the plan is to put them entirely on our debt.
Continuing on Monday. The guys did stay home, so far ds doesn’t have any work he can do right now, so dh is the only one working, but ds has PTO that he can take if they don’t come up with work for him to do here at home. It’s still up in the air if he goes to southern Oklahoma tomorrow evening or not. I’m hoping that due to roads and the extreme cold they don’t send the crew until later in the week.
Back to the SS stuff. When we paid all that money back to ss they said it could possibly start the age over on dh, meaning a much higher rate than the age 62, but when I talked to them two weeks ago they said no he was just on suspension, thus him needing to go in and talk to them. Which means he’ll have to take time off work and lose some OT, but it will be so worth it. I do wish the Federal Government could get their ducks in a row. Either way because he won’t make (by a long shot) over $16,000 in January and February he can go ahead and start the checks in January instead of waiting to March like we had originally thought. When his checks start so can mine. By waiting until the 18th of Dec to sign up I’ll get the checks at age 64 rather than 63 because I turn 64 on January 6th, so that will add a little more to the pot.
How much we aren’t certain because even if they keep dh locked in at his age 62 rate (even though he paid it back) that rate should go up for four reasons 1) He’s been paying in for the last three years 2) there have been small cost of living raises since he drew before 3) How much you get back is figured on your average income for x amount of time. The last time they figured it 18 months of that time he was strictly on unemployment that brought the amount WAY down. We’ve been guaranteed all the way around no matter what his income for the last three years will nullify that unemployment amount and bring in a higher rate. 4) My checks will be based on a percentage of his checks. So we are very anxious to see how much it will all work out to be.
Once the checks start coming in then I’ll be completely re-doing the budget to pay off as much as we can as fast as we can before something else (like Obamacare) comes up to wreck our budget. That is a budget rebuild I am MOST anxious to build!
I cannot tell you how excited I am to start getting those ss checks knowing that if all goes right we will be paying off a bill every 30-45 days, with hopefully the first one dropping off by Christmas, or the very latest the end of the year before the ss checks even start.
Our payments to BB have it now below $1,000 we owe and that is very exciting to me. I really do hate that bill, more than any other we’ve ever had.
This last few days I’ve been very thankful for food storage because we’ve been eating well without having to get out into the stores and on slick roads. We are running a little low on dog food—poor planning on my part, but the girls are thrilled with that because they are getting a lot of Thanksgiving Turkey from the freezer cooked in rice with veggies instead of their canned foods. Not only is it warm, but it’s PEOPLE food. LOL!
As Kathryn and some of the others can tell you watering the stock is interesting. For a while we were having to haul it out 1 gallon at a time from the house because the outdoor faucet, despite our efforts to prevent it, had frozen. Then dh remembered we had in the past used my embossing heat gun to thaw a stubborn faucet so now they can fill the 5 gallon jugs and haul those just a few feet to the goose pen/garden rather in the kitchen, across the dining room, across the living room up to steps, out the front door, down five steps, around the house and to the pen.
Needless to say the birds are remaining in the garden until the weather improves because outside of it they would be sitting “ducks” so to speak for the predators. The guys have reported to me there are cougar, bobcat, possum, coon and coyote tracks all around the fenced enclosure and the geese are generally in the smack dab middle of the big garden area where the “bad guys” can’t reach them. The guineas are barely coming down out of the trees to eat and drink while lookouts watch for predators and then they all fly back up deep into the pines to be away from crafty owls in these temps and snow.
Me I stay entirely indoors, I don’t bounce near as well as I use to.
Things, hopefully, are suppose to start thawing out tomorrow. We’ll see.
Oh and I had my annual check up last week. Basically I am still in pretty good shape, needed a few pill adjustments, but it looks like you guys are stuck with me for a while longer.
The standard box is a very good value (way more produce for me than the $15 cost). And like Anthea said, the specials are great.
A couple of months ago I got a case (24 pounds) of pomegranates (when they first came in season) for $20.50. I think there were 36 poms in there. (At the time, they were $3.00 each at the grocery store.) I ended up juicing them all and it is in the freezer awaiting a jelly project.
Also bought 50 pounds of Roma tomatoes last month for $29.00 (I made smoky chipotle catsup with those).
Based on every thing I’ve received so far Samsung is in the lead and like you I am going to go with the largest one that will fit in our space. Height is not a problem and I don’t think width will be either, it’s how far the drawer will open out is my main thing because the kitchen is only 12 inches wider than a normal free standing stove—long narrow kitchen (I HATE IT).
Wish we could do a kitchen remodel that would expand it, but both of my designer/drafters have looked at it and what with the sunken aspect of the kitchen from the utility room and the kitchen being higher than the sunroom (so 3 levels in all) and the four walls all being load bearing ones (2 story house) they said the cost would be astronomical to do it. So I’m stuck with making it as efficient as possible and dreaming of a summer kitchen for canning season.
I’m not a fan of deep freezes, and the large bin below is a little like one, but the sliding drawer on top helps a lot to keep smaller items from getting lost. It’s overall a bit smaller than the old fridge was. This is partially offset by a much smaller ice bin, which usually meets our needs just fine. If we’re going to be entertaining, we will empty the bin into a large container that we stick in the freezer and keep doing that until it’s full (this requires planning several days ahead). Then, when the ice bin runs out, we can refill it with cubes that are the right size and shape for the dispenser. Because of the design with the bottom freezer, the ice bin is actually in the *fridge* compartment and there are some ducts to the freezer that keep the ice frozen. You can produce ice faster than normal by pushing an “ultra ice” button, and for 24 hours, the fans in those ducts blow faster and the ice cycles faster. Overall, I like it very much, but nothing’s perfect…
There isn’t enough compartment space. By which I mean none, other than the produce bins. No butter compartment, and not enough shelf space in the doors for all our condiments plus a gallon of milk. Only the right door has shelves because the left door has the ice bin. I bought a set of refrigerator bins at Costco and that helps a lot with the organization. It’s very easy to think you’ve closed the door when it’s still about 1/2″ away from being closed, especially if you’ve opened both doors at once and both of them aren’t fully closed. It has an alarm that starts to ding after a minute or so if the doors are open, but the idiots in engineering positioned the buttons that detect the open door in such a way that it “thinks” the door is closed when they’re in that 1/2″ open position. I thought I was very clever to cut about 1/8″ to 1/4″ of that button off, but the switch mechanism was more complicated than I realized, and I really messed it up and had to buy a replacement (thankfully, not expensive). However, the boxes that these buttons are mounted on have the buttons mounted on the outside, and I was able to mount them on the inside so I achieved the desired effect, that the door must be closed all the way or the alarm will go off. One clever thing is that the circulating fan shuts off when the doors are open so the cold air tends to stay put. Having so much door space could have you losing a lot of cold air otherwise. I do like the double doors as they make it very easy to see everywhere in the fridge.
The shelves are very configurable and easily removed. There are two produce bins that are deceptively deep and always hold more than I think they will. The water filter takes up more room than I’d like. Sears wants $50 apiece for them but Home Depot sells a package of two (their own “HDX” brand) for $50. They have to be replaced every six months.
Our water is fine, but I have to admit that the filter makes it taste really good.
All of our appliances are white. I’m WAY too cheap to pay an extra $150 t0 $200 for a stainless exterior that just so happens to be in vogue right now and probably won’t be in another five years. The owner’s manual for this fridge suggested putting car wax on the exterior to help protect the finish, and I did that. It’s just over a year old now, and still so slippery that some of our refrigerator magnets just slide down.
Overall, I’m very happy with this fridge. By the way, since you’re soliciting various experiences, my mother bought a Samsung of a similar design and they’ve had water leaking from the ice compartment into the fridge from day one. They’ve had several warranty calls but never got it resolved. She positively hates it…
We had a Maytag side-by-side that had sort of a zig zag design, so the bottom of the freezer was wider than the top, and the bottom of the fridge was narrower than the top, but NONE of the freezer was wide enough for our needs, and if you put a sheet pan in there that just barely fit, it would block the air circulation and cause problems.
We’ve replaced a Maytag dishwasher that was great for about two years, then all these tiny plastic parts started breaking. Easy enough to replace, and just a few dollars each, but then add $15 or so in shipping and it starts to add up in a hurry… and every time one package would show up, something else would break. We installed a KitchenAid in its place and spent an amount I’d be embarrassed to share with you on it.
The interior is all stainless and it’s been going strong for several years now (we did have an episode with white film all over everything (even clogging up the sprayers) but online research revealed that Cascade had changed its formula to remove phosphates and a LOT of people were having that trouble so we switched to Finish and everything sparkles again). Sorry about the tangent, but you asked about brands and I’m all done with Maytag appliances.
We have two fridges, too. I don’t know how we would get through Thanksgiving and Christmas without them. The one in the laundry room is a Maytag with no bells and whistles, just a fridge and freezer on the top. It’s been very reliable, and that’s an oddity with recently manufactured Maytag appliances for us (well, it’s almost 15 years old now). My father-in-law would say “even a broken watch is right twice a day.” I understand that Whirlpool is owned by Maytag, too, and I’ve heard that their quality has gone way down as well. I believe KitchenAid is, too but as I say, our dishwasher is quite a champ. And our Maytag washer and dryer are almost 25 years old. We’ve had them serviced several times, and one repairman said “If I owned these, I would never replace them because you can’t buy washer/dryer sets of this quality anymore.” My parents have the same ones, about the same age. Course, that doesn’t help you if you’re looking for new appliances.
That side-by-side fridge was repaired several times under warranty. The cooling mechanism is in the freezer only (this is true of most refrigerators), and little trap doors between it and the fridge are supposed to open as needed to keep the fridge cold, but it wouldn’t get below about 47 degrees. After the third warranty repair, I simply ripped the trap doors out altogether so the cold air could circulate all the time, and it generally stayed in the 30’s after that. It had a water filter, but the water always tasted like plastic because the water reservoir was *after* the water filter in the line, so I installed my own water filter past the reservoir and the water tasted great after that. I actually sent them a letter telling them about this and that they could stop sending me letters trying to get me to buy their water filters because I wasn’t using them anymore as a result of my having to fix their poor design.
Then the through-the-door ice dispenser went out. When you pushed a glass up to it, it would make this horrible, very loud grinding noise.
The fix (according to some online research) involved replacing a very expensive circuit board, so I ripped out the whole dispenser mechanism and fastened a shelf and a big tupperware container in it to catch the ice and stuck a big scoop in it. It scared the hell out of more than one visitor, though, because it would still make that noise if you selected “ice” and pushed a glass up to it, even with the bin and the dispensing screw removed (still dispensed water just fine). So I put some stickers on the ice buttons and a label that said “these buttons don’t work!” Oh yeah, and then it started to rust around the water dispenser place. So it really looked just *awesome* by the time it gave up the ghost, with the stickers and the rust and the bin in the freezer fastened in place with zip ties.
One time the freezer simply stopped working and that was another warranty call. The repair man simply turned off the fridge, removed a panel over the coils, and used a blow dryer to melt the condensation off, then declared it fixed, saying that sometimes that just happens when it’s really humid. I was skeptical, but it did work for a long time after that. When it happened again, it wasn’t under warranty anymore, but I did the same thing. That time, it worked for about a day before the coils were clogged again. Apparently, the auto defrost had gone out. That was when we decided to just get a new fridge. And we knew it would NOT be a Maytag.
the last guy thought it was hooked up but it didn’t work, something wrong somewhere. Drive my family a bit crazy cause I don’t use trays, I freeze my big ice cubes in metal glasses and then just plunk one in a larger glass for my iced tea. Works for me but they don’t like it.
Ours is a 32 cubic foot. We used to have a side by side. I hated it. The freezer was not wide enough. Could not fit a big turkey in it, etc. I LOVE LOVE LOVE my fridge. It has a single big freezer drawer on the bottom. Once open, it has a shallow drawer inside within the big drawer. I love this set up. The fridge and freezer have “power” chill and “power” freeze. I am not sure if that is the exact term but you an select it when you are opening on or the other frequently and it cools it down faster. Great feature when a lot of people are in and out of the freezer. We have ice (cubed or crushed) and water in the door. We also have an extra ice dispensed into a bin in the freezer. We are only a family of three. We don’t usually need the ice in the freezer but it’s great when you needed. When we bought the fridge we didn’t know it had the extra ice thing but loved the “upgrade”. LOL
I am only 5’ 0” and I LOVE LOVE LOVE this set up. It is not hard for me to find things. I can reach pretty much anything. It is well lit as well. Dh loves the light …. maybe its LED? I am not sure.
We bought our fridge a few months back at Sears. We have a sales person we have dealt with the last few years. She is awesome and helps us get the best deals possible when we need to buy. When we originally went to look and purchase she told us a “friends and family” sale was coming up and we could save an extra 15%, I think, off the already sale priced fridge. We also were buying a dishwasher because this is when we were remodeling our kitchen. When everything was totaled, it was as if we got our dishwasher for free because we saved so much. I would encourage you to check out whether a f/f sale is coming up at Sears, so nowguaranteed.com – this could save you 100’s of $$ cause guaranteed payday loans even for bad credit! I think there was one fridge bigger than ours but this is the biggest ginormas fridge we could afford. Dh said to get what I wanted because it would be last one we’d buy for a very long time. Of course we paid cash for it. If you want me to I can get dh to look up the number for the fridge we have.
I don’t know how many people are using ice at your workplace. I don’t care too much for the drawers but they “work” if you are organized. I don’t use as much ice as my DH and the 4 kids. We seem to have a good amount of ice unless DH uses it to cool down something he has made, then we have to catch up.
Our top inside drawer holds the ice bin and then the rest of it is for ice packs….kids cuddle with them during the summer to keep cool, they do use them for the occasional karate injury. Popsicles go in the little front bin and veggies and seafood for me take up the rest of the big drawer.
the veggie/fruit drawers are ok. we go through a lot of veggies–allergies have cut down the amount and type of fruit we use, so we will mix the 2 drawers.
The last drawer isn’t tall, but runs across the bottom of the frig. we store cheese, wraps, bacon, sausage and lunch meat in there. you do need to open both doors to get to it.
as compared to now would be an energy savings I’d think, but not certain. I swear sometimes I think dh will get frost bite while he stands there looking for “something” to eat, even if he just did the same thing 30 minutes earlier—I guess he thinks it will grow something new on its own? LOL!
Some of the newer models of the French door have the entire icemaker in the door, the freezing unit and everything. I’ve wondered if that would produce enough ice for the three of us. Because the space saving on the shelf would be good—but then you lose the door space and I like organizing my jars of stuff on doors (another reason I am looking at double doors.).
The main reason I was looking at the double drawer was to put often used items in the top drawer, and the less used items in the bottom. I was also thinking that would make keeping things organized easier too.
(had a Elctrolux that was a complete lemon so they finally returned our money and we replaced it with one similar to the link) We love it and have no problems in 4 years. Don’t even get me started on Electrolux…..that would not be pretty
While the shelves are wider, you do find yourself opening both doors a LOT.
The freezer storage at the bottom is not as efficient as it looks.
The veggie crisper drawer is laughably small.
And the door storage is also smaller than it appears.
My 2c worth.
you are talking about–not stainless steel, but a similar type of finish. I have the water option–button is inside left. no ice or water on the outside, with the humidity in FL, the ice clogs anyway. You also lose space inside the top if you have that option. The water filter is fairly easy to replace and I go with the generic filter vs name brand.
I only have 1 bottom drawer vs the 2 bottom that they now have–as looking at the front. It is fairly easy to clean, haven’t done it as well as I would like since DH took over my kitchen…that is a different story and will hopefully work itself out in a few months.
When I went to buy this frig, we looked at Home Depot, Lowe’s, HHgregg and Sears. Sears was the only place that had that model. HH wanted to sell us an upgraded model because everyone doesn’t want to open the freezer to get ice. HD and L had similar models by different manufacturers but at the time didn’t have as good a rating as the Samsung.
and when the compressor would kick in the dogs would roll their eyes like “why us?” It developed several new rattles this last few months and well, we knew it was going. It was almost as loud as the furnace compressor that shook a piece off down into its fan yesterday (yep Murphy hit us with a double whammy this week), but dh thinks he can fix that. It did the same thing a few years back and he fixed it then. Since I was home I heard it go and turned off the furnace immediately.
We’d been using the furnace instead of wood heat because I was here alone and the guys were afraid I would slip and fall on the ice while alone. Right now I’m still not allowed to go on the back deck where the firewood is, so I’m using space heaters—thank goodness ds pays the electric bill. LOL!
That is why I don’t want a top freezer and I hate my side by side because the freezer space is too narrow, along with other things. We’re use to the milk being in the right door, and that is where I’d continue to keep it if at all possible, so forgetting shouldn’t be an issue. As for organization. Remember I’m the one with a pantry that has can rotators in it to keep it organized. I want things to stay where I put them. My side by side has designated areas for certain things, and I’m thinking one with the drawers with spacers might help me achieve my total organization goal. Hey, what can I say I’m a Capricorn and I’m anal about some things.
The reason I was considering the double door was because I do a lot of canning, freezing and drying of foods and the wider shelves would be a major plus for me when processing foods in big containers—or when I am having guests and do big platters. Again the side by side is frustrating in that aspect and to use the wider shelves in the sunroom fridge is a pananthus (our word for pain in the…) because I have to go from the kitchen, up two steps across the utility room, down two steps, around two dogs and a table and down the length of the sunroom carrying whatever big platter or bowl to store it in that fridge. So I was thinking the wider shelves in the kitchen where I was actually working would be a blessing.
As for not being able to over fill the freezer, that too may be a good thing. I cannot tell you how many times in the alst year I’ve found the sunroom freezer door not quite closed and food messed up. It does NOT make make me happy. Plus a small chest freezer for the utility room is on our want to buy after getting debt free list.
don’t get the cheapest one from whatever brand you pick. When I replaced mine I bought a Whirpool, pretty much their cheapest model. It WORKS fine, but it makes noises while running. So I was determined not to make that same mistake when I replaced my dad’s fridge. I don’t remember the brand, but I believe I got the mid-level model. It is MUCH quieter…
That’s the only experience/advice I can offer…
But I think you are in good shape financially to buy a new one. I personally would not recommend the type of frig you are talking about. Have you used one a friend’s house? My MIL has one and so does my best friend and I don’t like it. Here’s why. If you put the milk on the left side of the frig and forget which side it is on, you either A) have to open both doors, or B) have to guess which door. Then it is frustrating if you guess wrong. I don’t want to open both doors all the time. The whole purpose of getting a frig with two doors, I thought, was so you’d only open 1/2 the compartment. Anyway, that’s my two cents on the double door thing.
The second thing is the freezer drawer. Now, being tall, I love having the frig on the top and freezer on the bottom. I don’t think you are 5′ 10, Jan, so you might reconsider that. But that’s not my point. The drawer freezer is very small. You can’t stack or squeeze anything into it because then the drawer won’t close. Yes, being able to see everything from the top is nice, but you must be very organized.
I would recommend a black refrigerator. It doesn’t show the dirt at all. Which I can’t say for stainless. It show every smudge and fingerprint. Puppy prints too!
I hope my ideas are at least something to take into consideration. If you’ve tried the frig in real life and liked it, then go for it! It’s obviously a nice frig and lots of people like them.
Question – when you have purchased used appliances in the past, were they from individuals, or used appliance businesses? Each used appliance we’ve purchased has come from an excellent used appliance place in our little town. They provide a guarantee which, amongst other things, ensures that no uninvited “guests” come along for the ride. If you have a used appliance place in a nearby town, perhaps check with them on whether they offer a similar guarantee. Or, perhaps put it in quarantine (some outside covered location?) and ensure it’s bug-free before moving it inside. Knowing how much new fridges are, I’d hate to see you go that route if you don’t have to. On the other hand, if you have your heart set on that new fridge, that’s another issue entirely. But if the only thing keeping you from a used fridge is a bug concern, the bugs can be dealt with in advance one way or the other. Just a thought……..
This hit didn’t come from out of the blue, but we were hoping it would hold off until early summer. Our second fridge died this week end, luckily it was on the low side with what was in it because I had not done Friday’s grocery shopping due to the snow—there’s another silver lining for the snow.
I know for some of you losing a second fridge would be no biggie, but around here it is. It is where we store the large containers of mayo, mustard, ketchup, refrigerator bread dough (various varieties) and during the holidays a lot of leftovers. It is our utility fridge. The one out there was CHEAP, no ice maker, no water dispenser etc, just a fridge with a top freezer. A freezer we used constantly because, as you know, I did not replace my freezer when it died three years ago.
We knew the fridge was going, but like I said we’d been nursing it along. For right now I can make sort of do with using the tiny camper refrigerator, and an ice chest or two. Luckily it’s cold weather. But that is dadburn inconvenient.
We discussed getting a used fridge from somewhere, but I have misgivings about that. EVERY and I do mean EVERY time I’ve purchased a used appliance I’ve got roaches. That is a little extra bonus I do not want. In the long run it costs more in lost food, ds having allergy attacks, and fumigation than we save purchasing used.
So dh’s suggestion is to take the side by side I am so unhappy with (lots of minor things) from the house and into the sunroom and purchase the refrigerator that I’ve been lusting for. It was on the “to buy” list for this coming summer after we are cc debt free, but now…
I know the style I am pretty certain I want. I want the type with the freezer on the bottom, that has the extra drawer in the freezer drawer and the double doors on top. I definitely have room for one of those in my kitchen, as long as the dishwasher isn’t open when I want to get in the freezer. (I’ve got a tiny kitchen).
I want whistles and bells, it was suppose to be my big “gift” when we got the cc paid off, but now we are looking at getting it early. Ds says he will pay 1/3 on it because he lives here and will be using it too. I have to say I was stunned when he said that and asked him if he knew how much such fridges run—he quoted a price that was very near dead on to those I’ve previously seen. It seems he’s been looking at them knowing I wanted one. He had even considered buying one himself for me as a Christmas/birthday gift—until he saw they were more than what he thought they would be.
The brand is the thing. Have any of you had any experiences, good or bad with this type of refrigerator. If so would you care to share those experiences. What brand did you find to be the best? Does anyone subscribe to consumer reports and if so could you look up this style fridge for me and tell me the ratings on the various brands?
Another big issue—how easy is it to clean? I’ve had fridges before you couldn’t easily remove the shelves to clean and that was a real pain in the backside. I want easy!
While we are at it. Does anyone have one of those electric grills that has where you can turn the plates over and use them as a griddle then put the plates in the dishwasher? Brand? How pleased are you with it? My current grill is shedding the Teflon and I’m worried about that. I’m thinking about asking for one for Christmas/birthday.
Luckily our ss checks should start next month and both men are working a lot of OT, so we should have the cash for the fridge I want by late January—it will mean an extra two weeks to a month on the next bill pay off, but we need the fridge.